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January 2, 2012 - 3:20am

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Sticky, tacky dough questions

Reinhart's books refer to the condition of dough in the following ways:

"If mixing by hand, combine the soaker and biga.... knead with wet hands until... evenly integrated... It should be soft and slightly sticky."

"Knead by hand.... until the dough feels soft and tacky, but not sticky."

"Resume kneading the dough for 1 minute...... the dough should have strength and pass the windowpane test, yet still feel soft, supple, and very tacky."

I'm still not sure on how to differentiate between "soft and slightly sticky", "soft and tacky, but not sticky" and "soft, supple, and very tacky". Can someone please enlighten me?

Today I have a 100% whole wheat dough (Whole Grain Breads basic formula) that after initial mixing and before kneading was super sticky. If thrown against the wall, well it won't even reach the wall. It would have just stuck to my hands. I'm using this whole wheat flour milled in Turkey which seems to have very poor water absorption compared to an American whole wheat flour I tried last week. So I put in more flour generously and kneaded it in. I didn't track how much I added but it could easily have been 100g. I was only making 1 loaf. I added it gradually.

It eventually reached a condition that I'm not sure should be called slightly sticky or tacky. If I touch the dough lightly, there is a feeling like touching the sticky part of Post-It Notes. But if I hold the dough carefully or knead with a medium stroke, bits of dough would be torn off and stick to my fingers and palm. Later I placed the dough on the table for a few minutes while I went to wash my mixing bowl. When I returned to pick up the dough to put into my bowl for rising, the dough sticks to the table, like so:

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So the dough was still sticky and not tacky? I had already kneaded 300 strokes and added copious amounts of flour during kneading. After rising, I got it out of the bowl, pre-shaped it and let it rest for 10 minutes. Then when I rolled it (final shaping), bits of the dough surface stuck to the table.

Another question, in Laurel's book, she said beginners often make the mistake of adding flour to dough during the initial stages of kneading when the beginner finds it too sticky. She assures that after sufficient kneading, the dough will naturally lose its stickiness. In my today's dough, was it a mistake to add flour? If I didn't add, it would have been impossible to knead it as it would have stuck to my hands that I can't even hurl it against the wall.

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richkaimd

Jan 2 2012 - 4:58am

my definitions of soft, sticky and tacky

Here are my working definitions of soft, sticky and tacky:

First, to me "soft" refers to a point on the spectrum of percent hydration. Very high hydration doughs (e.g., 75%) are maximally soft. They seem to flow like syrup. Very low hydration doughs (e.g., 33%, as for example, the my developed challah dough which can be formed into a ball-shaped lump and deforms quite slowly if left, untouched, on the counter) can be thought of as maximally "unsoft". Between these two points of dough hydration think of "soft" as referring to the texture of differently stuffed pillows.

Second, to me, "sticky" refers to the experience of pulling your finger off the surface of a lump of dough only to discover that some dough comes off with it. "Tacky" refers to the experience of pulling your finger off the surface of a lump of dough and noticing that your finger sticks a little bit but no dough comes off at all.

A well-kneaded high hydration dough can be very soft but not at all sticky, because it can form a skin. An insufficiently kneaded all-white flour challah dough can be a little too soft and very sticky. It will need more flour and kneading. Trying to make a gluten window with it will be a mess. Once the additional flour is added, it will become only a little sticky and somewhat less soft. Adding too much flour eliminates the stickiness altogether and makes it too firm, i.e., insufficiently soft.

Adding whole wheat or rye flours, for example, to a mostly white flour dough will nearly eliminate the possibility of eliminating all tackiness.

I hope that makes some sense.

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lazybaker

Jan 2 2012 - 6:52am

I'm confused. hahaSticky

I'm confused. haha

Sticky means the dough sticks to your hand, leaving a mess on your hand. Tacky means that it sticks but then releases from your hand, leaving no mess on your hand.

The flour takes time for water to be absorbed. Mix the flour and water and leave it for like 15 to 30 minutes, and then come back to it. Use a pastry scraper to pick up the dough from the table.

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lookahead

Jan 2 2012 - 8:12am

Adding whole wheat or rye

Adding whole wheat or rye flours, for example, to a mostly white flour dough will nearly eliminate the possibility of eliminating all tackiness.

What do you mean by the above? Adding whole wheat or rye flour to a white dough will turn it sticky?

If I find my dough to be sticky, is the solution to knead more, to wait for gluten to develop on its own or to add flour?

Like my dough today, it never got tacky up till entering the oven, despite 300 strokes of kneading, adding lots of flour and long fermentation. Can I conclude that the cause is this particular flour's poor water absorption? So I should have used less water in the first place?

And is it right to say that correct mixing, taking into account the flour's characteristics, including correct hydration, is the key to a good dough. No amount of resting, kneading, stretch and folds, french folds can salvage a dough that was mixed incorrectly in the first place?

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clazar123

Jan 2 2012 - 9:59am

To flour or not flour-that is the question

Softness and stickiness/tackiness are 2 different characteristics.

Soft merely refers to how hard or soft the dough is-the pillow analogy is good. Think hard pillow or soft pillow. The idea of how it flows is also good. Too soft and itwon't hold any shape-it flattens into a disc and is referred to as a "slack" dough.

Simply put:

  • Sticky is when you touch the dough and a thin coating of dough comes away on your finger.

You actually want your whole wheat dough to be a little sticky at the end of a mix. Let it sit for at least an hour to absorb the stickiness. By the end of its "sit" time, it should be less sticky and moretacky -UNLESS it is sticky from excessive starchiness of the particular flour.That is a possibility.More on that at the end of this post.

  • Tacky is when you touch the dough and it feels like a Post-It note.

Ideally, your whole wheat dough is tacky at the end of its sit time before shaping. UNLESS it is sticky from starchiness as a characteristic from the particular flour.

  • Sticky from flour characterisitcs:

Some flours and techniques cause more gelatinization of the starches and that can actually be a desirable trait-as long as you don't try to get rid of it with more flour! If you add a little rye flour to your whole wheat (and some extra water) it will cause extra starchiness to form and actually help to "fluff" the final loaf but it will definitely be a sticky dough.The gel of the starches helps to trap the gas bubbles formed by the yeast.The trick is learning to handle sticky bread and in your case sticky, whole wheat bread. Use damp (not wet) hands or even oiled hands and work surface. A bench scraper is invaluable (wet with water or oiled). It is tricky but can be done.

So with your whole wheat-build in a 30 min-8 hour "rest" (in the refrig if its the longer rest),then it is asleast stickyas it is going to become. Handle with damp or oiled hands,shape,proof,bake.

Have delicious fun!

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R.Acosta

Jan 2 2012 - 2:02pm

Very Helpful Post

I've always wondered the difference between sticky and tacky and the spectrum of tactile characteristics inbetween. The one that always gets me is the "slightly sticky" as that just seems to be a synonym for tacky. Good question! The more you know...haha.

-Rachel

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FAQs

What makes dough too sticky? ›

What causes sticky sourdough or bread dough? Overly sticky dough is normally caused by a combination of using the wrong flour and using too much water. I discuss these points in more detail above but in short: choose a flour that's produced for bread baking. These are normally labelled “Bread” or “Strong” flour.

What is the difference between tacky and sticky dough? ›

What's the difference between "sticky" and "tacky"? These two words have basically the same meaning (able or likely to stick), but "tacky" is weaker - it means "only slightly sticky".

How do you handle wet sticky dough? ›

How to handle a sticky bread dough
  1. Get yourself a plastic dough scraper. Seriously, after a bowl – and an oven of course – this is the most useful bit of kit for making bread dough. ...
  2. Get a metal dough cutter/scraper. ...
  3. Oil the work surface. ...
  4. Clean and oil the bowl. ...
  5. Knead with quick, confident movements. ...
  6. Flour your hands.
Apr 2, 2015

What if 2 ingredient dough is too sticky? ›

Place flour and yogurt in a medium bowl; stir well with a wooden spoon until just combined and then keep mixing dough in bowl with your hands until smooth (about 2 minutes of kneading). If dough is too sticky to knead, add more flour, 1 Tbsp at a time, until no longer sticky; let sit five minutes.

How to make dough less sticky without flour? ›

Oil does as well and is better suited for keeping the dough from sticking to a bowl or rising container than water is. Water is more readily absorbed. Paul Hollywood shows how using oil instead of flour to knead bread, which helps keep the texture of the dough consistent.

What is the best surface to roll out sticky dough? ›

Silicone pastry mats are excellent nonstick work surfaces. Dough that would normally require a lot of flour to prevent sticking, suddenly does not. The dough will slide and turn and roll easily. It works for literally everything—cookies, pie dough, babka dough, Danishes.

What can I use instead of flour for sticky dough? ›

So, instead of using flour, try using vegetable oil. Paul Hollywood claims that using oil while kneading bread or rolling it out on the countertop will not negatively affect the dough and will keep the bread from sticking too badly on your hands or the table. BBC also says you can use olive oil for this technique.

What is tacky texture? ›

: somewhat sticky to the touch.

Does hot water make dough sticky? ›

Wash your doughy hands with cold water, because this will best dissolve the dough from your hands, warm/hot water will sort of cook the dough and make it more sticky. Some people oil their work surface and lightly oil their hands during kneading or folding.

Does oil make dough less sticky? ›

Rubbing a teaspoon of the neutral-flavored fat onto the countertop works just as well as flour does to minimize sticking, and the dough readily absorbs excess oil without any negative effect on its consistency when either raw or baked.

How do you scoop sticky dough? ›

Dip the Spoon in Flour: Dip the spoon in flour before scooping the dough. The flour will create a thin layer between the dough and the spoon, preventing sticking. Moisten the Spoon: Dampen the spoon slightly with water before scooping the dough. The moisture can help create a barrier and prevent sticking.

How do you spread sticky dough? ›

Flour your fingers … or moisten them, if the dough is particularly sticky. If cookie dough is stiff or dry in texture, then crumble it into as many small pieces as possible and then sprinkle dough pieces over the cookie filling surface. If cookie dough is thick in texture, then pinch off a teaspoon or two at a time.

How to stop dough from sticking? ›

A more dependable and effective technique is to wet your hands with water. This can be cold or warm water. You may have to add some more water on your hands depending on how long you work the dough, but this technique is far less messy than using flour.

Does proofing dough make it less sticky? ›

In the end, I find little difference if the dough is proofed in the refrigerator between 10 to 16 hours or so. However, if you find a dough that's sticky, slack, and spreads excessively when baking, it has likely overproofed and needs a reduction in the total fermentation time.

What happens if you bake wet dough? ›

Strong, wet doughs spring well in the oven, forming nice “ears” and, if given time in cold fermentation, a blistered crust. But for many, the most coveted feature of high-hydration loaves is their dramatically open crumb or alveolar structure.

How to tell if dough is overworked? ›

The overworked dough will often feel tight and tough. This means that liquid molecules have been damaged and won't stretch properly, causing the bread to break and tear more easily. Conversely, a dough that is underworked will be harder to form into a ball shape.

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